Posts by Newly Enlightened

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I have a girlfriend now and "me so happy"

by RayPublisher in

here is my sweet survival plan, post jw life!

...yet another part of my healing process...yes healing is g o o d.... .

btw, it feels so great to not have to hide and to able to put my picture up anywhere i feel like!.

Newly Enlightened

Yeah, it would be next to impossible to explain the JW brand of crazy, to someone who had never visited the asylum.

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been reading this forum for 2 years and this site has been great help for me.. currently my situation is difficult, im slowly fading and trying to make new friends outside jw.. i fear of losing many friends and family members, but i know that some point i just have to do it, its my life not theirs.. havent attendet meetings for 2 years now, life is better and instead waiting armageddon, im planning future to myself.

i will tell more about my situations when im ready for it.... .

Newly Enlightened

Welcome Rambo. Glad to have you here with us.

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I have a girlfriend now and "me so happy"

by RayPublisher in

here is my sweet survival plan, post jw life!

...yet another part of my healing process...yes healing is g o o d.... .

btw, it feels so great to not have to hide and to able to put my picture up anywhere i feel like!.

Newly Enlightened

Congrats Ray/JJ. Our family wishes you the best!

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Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG

by mindnumbed in

symposium: beware of apostates!.

satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .

Newly Enlightened

Talk: 'Truth brings not peace but a sword"

Brother says, lets look at MT 10:32-38 "Don't think" [Then he pauses] Then reads the scripture.

"Don't think' Implant the mind-control then read the scripture that they're trying to use to make it appear "scripturally sound"

Another doozy: "If you put ANY human before Christ then we're not worthy of him"

Wouldn't that include the GB? They're men/humans.

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Looking for a certain Watchtower Magazine

by truthlover1991 in

i don't know if this is the right place to put this topic, so feel free to correct me.

i'm looking for the watchtower magazine (in any format, pdf, scan, etc) from april 1st, 1979. the one which talks about how jesus is not the mediator for all mankind.

i know it might be an elusive magazine to get ahold of, but if any of you reading this have a vast watchtower magazine library, would you consider helping out a fellow?

Newly Enlightened

You can't use it from the WT lib print out?

WT 4/1 1979 pg 31

QuestionsFromReaders

Is Jesus the “mediator” only for anointed Christians?

The term “mediator” occurs just six times in the Christian Greek Scriptures and Scripturally is always used regarding a formal covenant.

Moses was the “mediator” of the Law covenant made between God and the nation of Israel. (Gal. 3:19, 20) Christ, though, is the “mediator of a new covenant” between Jehovah and spiritual Israel, the “Israel of God” that will serve as kings and priests in heaven with Jesus. (Heb. 8:6; 9:15; 12:24; Gal. 6:16) At a time when God was selecting those to be taken into that new covenant, the apostle Paul wrote that Christ was the “one mediator between God and men.” (1 Tim. 2:5) Reasonably Paul was here using the word “mediator” in the same way he did the other five times, which occurred before the writing of 1 Timothy 2:5, referring to those then being taken into the new covenant for which Christ is “mediator.” So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the “mediator” only for anointed Christians.

The new covenant will terminate with the glorification of the remnant who are today in that covenant mediated by Christ. The “great crowd” of “other sheep” that is forming today is not in that new covenant. However, by their associating with the “little flock” of those yet in that covenant they come under benefits that flow from that new covenant. During the millennium Jesus Christ will be their king, high priest and judge. For more detailed information, see Aid to Bible Understanding, pages 1129 and 1130 under “Mediator”; also God’s“Eternal Purpose” Now Triumphing for Man’s Good, page 160, paragraph 10; also TheWatchtower issues of February 15, 1966, pages 105 through 123; November 15, 1972, pages 685 and 686, under the subheading “Leading the Way to a New Covenant”; and April 1, 1973, pages 198 and 199, under the subheading “The New Covenant.”

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At Psalm 89:19,who are the “loyal ones ”to whom Jehovah spoke in a vision? An examination of Psalm 89 reveals that the subject matter is the Kingdom covenant. Verses 19, 20 and 29 of this psalm read: “At that time you spoke in a vision to your loyal ones, and you proceeded to say: ‘I have placed help upon a mighty one; I have exalted a chosen one from among the people. I have found David my servant; with my holy oil I have anointed him . . . And I shall certainly set up his seed forever and his throne as the days of heaven.’”

The account of 1 Chronicles 17 reveals that the promise of a continuing dynasty in the house of David was revealed to the prophet Nathan in a vision. First Chronicles 17:15 tells us: “According to all these words and according to all this vision was the way that Nathan spoke to David.” Therefore, the “loyal ones” are Nathan and David, with David receiving the divine revelation through Nathan.

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How to handle problems in the Congregation and Organization.

by DATA-DOG in

Newly Enlightened

In case you haven't seen our video on Youtube, JWStruggle channel about "Elders come for a visit". So something like this happens you talk to the CO and complain about SEVERAL mishandling of things, including the P.O/COBE spending cong. funds without approval and it's all dropped????? Yeah going thru the proper channels gets it all fixed.... [Heavy sarcasm]

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Hello everyone it has been a very very very long time !

by oldflame in

just popped in i heard about lady lee leaving and wanted to say bye but i guess they closed that thread .

any old timers still around ?.

Newly Enlightened

Hi Oldflame welcome back. I'm fairly new here also.

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A JW husband emailing his ex-girlfriend after his wife reveals her apostasy

by JimmyPage in

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friends

a woman i've known for years recently confided in me.

she told me she found out her jw husband had been secretly e-mailing his jw ex-girlfriend.

he was telling his ex about how difficult it had been for him since his wife was now basically an apostate.

Newly Enlightened

Sorry your friend is going thru this. Doesn't even the WTBT$ consider this on-line dating? I will find that article and get back to you.

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With the July 15 WT approaching, would this be the ideal opportunity to start an ACTIVELY VOCAL fade?

by Captain Blithering in

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friends

by 'actively vocal', i do not mean openly criticising the articles and pointing out the inconsistencies or flipflops (not footwear, reversals).

i do mean letting people know that you're finding it hard to understand the new truth, and the fact that there is therefore old truth, or falsities, (is that a word?

it is now), therefore if there are falsehoods (that's the word, of course), then that puts into doubt the extent of jah's involvement in the preparation/dissemination of it all... (and making it clear you're not saying they aren't gods prophets on earth, just that you're not sure, don't know).. the reason i ask is cos i'm finding it hard to completely fade without an external reason.

Newly Enlightened

There was also an article we came across last week and have been looking for it for the past 2 hours, but can't find it. But it said that there were 'dissenters' [Ray Franz & the group kicked out in 1980] claiming that the only time they WERE the F&DS was when they met together to dispense the spiritual food.

We'll keep looking and if anyone knows which article we're talking about, we'd be happy to know.

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With the July 15 WT approaching, would this be the ideal opportunity to start an ACTIVELY VOCAL fade?

by Captain Blithering in

jw
friends

by 'actively vocal', i do not mean openly criticising the articles and pointing out the inconsistencies or flipflops (not footwear, reversals).

i do mean letting people know that you're finding it hard to understand the new truth, and the fact that there is therefore old truth, or falsities, (is that a word?

it is now), therefore if there are falsehoods (that's the word, of course), then that puts into doubt the extent of jah's involvement in the preparation/dissemination of it all... (and making it clear you're not saying they aren't gods prophets on earth, just that you're not sure, don't know).. the reason i ask is cos i'm finding it hard to completely fade without an external reason.

Newly Enlightened

One thing that might help. The 'New light' has totally thrown Russell to the curb. But yet in 1971, they were saying this: WT 71 12/15 pg760-761

HOW

THEGOVERNINGBODYCAMETO

EXIST

How did this governing body make its appearance in recent times? Evidently under the direction of Jehovah God and his Son Jesus Christ. According to the facts available, the governing body became associated with the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. C. T. Russell was patently of that governing body back there in the last quarter of the nineteenth century. Being fully dedicated to God through Christ, he set himself to apply his time, energy, abilities, wealth and influence to defending God’s inspired Word and spreading its message. To that end he began publishing Zion’sWatchTower back there in July of 1879, believing, as he said in its columns, that this had Jehovah’s backing, and hence there would be no solicitation for money. He manifested the qualifications of an overseer as set out in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9 and accordingly he was requested by the congregation of Christian Bible students at Allegheny to serve as its pastor or spiritual shepherd. Five years later Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society was incorporated and served as an “agency” to minister spiritual food to thousands of sincere persons seeking to know God and to understand his Word and to come into relationship with him through Christ.

Dedicated, baptized, anointed Christians became associated with that Society at headquarters in Pennsylvania. Whether on the Board of Directors or not, they rendered themselves available for special work of the “faithful and discreet slave” class. They aided in the feeding and directing of the slave class, and thus a governing body made its appearance. This was evidently under the guidance of Jehovah’s invisible active force or holy spirit. Also, under the direction of the Head of the Christian congregation, Jesus Christ the Son of God. True, the members of that governing body were not directly appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ.